here's a nicer version of the patch that doesn't need the 'declare to be used
Cool, thanks.
We could also look around to see if there's other working implementations that we could use... plt scheme's R6RS implementation of quasiquote or Common Lisp's implementation might be worth checking out
I also tried looking at PLT's r6rs quasiquote (specifically collects/r6rs/private/qq-gen.ss), but I found it a bit daunting because I'm unfamiliar with syntax-case macros. It's probably better for quasiquote to be written in Scheme, though, so perhaps the code could easily be transplanted into ac.scm. I'll just leave it to someone more Scheme-savvy.
I was thinking in terms of bootstrapping. The quasiquote library I wrote uses things defined in arc.arc, which in turn are written for quasiquote, but using the one on the Scheme side.
It's entirely possible to rewrite either to fit it all together. For instance, someone could rewrite the quasiquote library in terms of basic operators -- 'assign, 'cons, 'fn (instead of 'let), and the like. Probably more bearable would be rewriting arc.arc to use 'list and 'cons and so forth to build expressions instead of using quasiquote, up until we have enough to define quasiquotation (which doesn't require much); then load qq.arc and continue defining arc.arc with the newfound utility.
Neither of these options sounds pleasant if, as an alternative, we could just have an easily-added Scheme-side quasiquote -- e.g., if mzscheme already implemented it correctly, we'd be done. Granted, there are advantages to having a user-defined quasiquote, not just in the interest of keeping Arc axiomatic but also in giving programmers the option to modify it.
Efficiency was another concern of mine, in that doing quasiquotation in Scheme might be more efficient than cranking 'ac across all of the Arc functions back-and-forth. But this is likely unfounded and more a symptom me worrying rather than actual testing -- the difference could be negligible or even nonexistent. Arc quasiquotes (as I implemented) still compile down to simple Scheme code (to the results of the macroexpansions), so it's probably silly to worry. Just a fleeting concern.
Well, on efficiency, the quasiquote expansion happens at read / macro expansion / compile time, am I right? So writing the qq expander in Arc vs. Scheme isn't going to affect the speed of the running program, yes?
As for bootstrapping, MzScheme's qq implementation works as long as nested quasiquotation isn't used, and today arc.arc doesn't use nested quasiquotation. So I don't think we need to do anything beyond what we're already doing: load arc.arc, then load a qq implementation that handles nested qq, and then we're free to write macro utilities that use nested qq.
Arc vs. Scheme isn't going to affect the speed of the running program, yes?
Yes, so far as I can see. I was just being paranoid.
As for bootstrapping, it's still cleaner to have a single implementation, rather than juggling them. Given we're currently only juggling 2 implementations, the problem's not intractable, just "improper".
