I find the language discussion interesting, don't get me wrong. Some of the discussions have actually been useful. But in the end most languages are steered by "real projects" as stefano has put it. The top real world apps that I can think of are news.ycombinator.com pageonetimes.com and ballerinc.com. I'd expect PG's and antiismist's experiences with these first real world application to effect arc as much as or more than Anarki code base. Even though there has been a lot more time and effort that has gone into Anarki.