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3 points by cchooper 6138 days ago | link | parent

Combining what gaah (Jesin) said with other things you've pointed out, the final solution would work something like this:

1. Write mock versions of all the Arc primitives that are dangerous.

2. Write a function that calls macex on an expression and then scans it for all instances of (set <symbol> ...).

3. Write a macro that takes an expression or a file, and wraps the whole thing in a with form that locally defines/shadows all the mock functions and the symbols detected with the above function.

4. Create a mock version of eval that wraps its argument in the above macro. This should obviously be shadowed in the macro too.

These are probably all the tools you need.



1 point by lacker 6138 days ago | link

Interesting. I think this roughly makes sense.

There are still some parts that are stumping me. It seems like I need to either (a) mock annotate to use a different mechanism, or (b) prevent the code from annotating pre-existing variables. The same goes for accessing sig.

Also, I'm not sure how to handle scar/scdr/sref. It don't think places are first-class, so I can't have a table of untouchable places, unless I start working in mzscheme. (Which I would rather avoid.)

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2 points by kens1 6138 days ago | link

If you want the gory details of places, see my recent document: http://arcfn.com/doc/setforms.html

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1 point by lacker 6138 days ago | link

Wow... that is gory. :-/

It seems like the most plausible way to keep scar/scdr/sref from mutating variables outside the no-side-effects scope is to keep a table of the variables they are allowed to operate on, which is basically anything the user created with cons or table inside the no-side-effects scope. This should invalidate code like

(= a (table))

(no-side-effects (= b a) (= (b "key") "value"))

Is there any more natural way to track this than keeping a table keyed by symbol?

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3 points by eds 6138 days ago | link

This is probably a horribly inefficient way to implement this... but couldn't you just copy all the variables before executing the body?

Assuming

  (= a (table 'foo 'bar))
then a line like this

  (no-side-effects (= a!foo 'baz) a)
might be converted to something roughly like this

  (let a (copy a)
    (= a!foo 'baz)
    a)
a is unchanged after evaluation because the let made a deep copy that overshadowed the global value of a.

You would still have to think about constructs like def and mac, but at least this deals with shared structure of lists and tables.

Maybe something like http://arclanguage.org/item?id=3572 ?

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