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1 point by bOR_ 6166 days ago | link | parent

I've a function that binds a list of lists to to variable 'world', and a function that prints out this world.

  (def makeworld (x)
    (let z nil
      (repeat x (= z (cons nil z)))
      (repeat x (= z (map [cons nil _] z)))
    (= world z)))

  (def show ()
    (each x world
    (each y x
    (pr (if (is y nil) #\. y) #\space))
    (pr #\linefeed)))
The world can then be seeded with trees, or shrubs or monsters or whatever. Anyway, as the world is a list of lists, it functions as a two-dimensional array.

If in arc I want to access a point in this two-dimensional list / array, I need to enter ((world 0) 3), and the basic question was how to change arc (macrowise) to make (world 0 3) be equivalent to ((world 0) 3). I already worked around it by now.

To answer your question: you're assuming that there is a list called 'list', and in my initial example I described a function that took the name of the list as first argument.



2 points by fallintothis 6165 days ago | link

The problem with multiple values being subsequent accesses is it would also interfere with a useful syntax (not actually in Arc, but I mean insofar as deciding which it should mean), and that's subsequence indexing. It's been discussed all over the place, e.g. http://arclanguage.org/item?id=449

With the assumption that one of them takes that syntax, what should be used for the other? How about (seq '(0 3 ...)) or (seq (0 3 ...))? It would similarly be fitting for any number of arguments, be they dimensions or indices, though I would vouch to use the list for n-dimensional indexing as the case of subsequences seems more common. Plus the use of a list distinguishes the one type of access from the other without having to go (...((seq 0) 3) ...).

Not that any of this helps your problem. Just something I noticed.

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1 point by kennytilton 6165 days ago | link

Oh, I get it. No, this is not something you can do with macrology because there is no room for a macro in your desired syntax (where you just want the list itself and the index values). As you say, if you'll make room for another token it can just be a function (which would be fun to generalize to N dimensions). As for making ((list (list 42)) 0 0) return 42, I think you need to is suggest it as a (very reasonable) enhancement to Arc.

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2 points by pg 6165 days ago | link

I don't understand exactly what this code is for, but I think you could write makeworld as

  (def makeworld (x)
    (= world (n-of x (n-of x nil))))

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