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2 points by partdavid 6166 days ago | link | parent

http://arclanguage.org/item?id=1743

When I read the arc challenge at first it seemed like a trivial "win" for arc and a cheap shot. It upset me, to be frank, and that interested me, because usually if you read something upsetting it means there's something there you need to see.

After I got done grumbling (mostly to myself) about how much better in a general case was my favorite language (Erlang), I used the challenge as a jumping off point for thinking about what an Erlang web framework would be (freely admitting my status as a dabbler and dilettante here, where yariv maintains a mature Rails-like web framework for Erlang).

I wrote an (extremely rudimentary) framework to support the code in my Erlang answer to the arc challenge. I noticed that a number of the answers supposed hypothetical or imaginary frameworks, so I suspect that a lot of people only got what was on the surface of the arc challenge (this toy web app is so short!) without understanding what was underlying it (what would it take to extend your favorite language to express something so concisely? And does that concise form take the form of a Greenspunesque arcalike or is it possible to express the same intent in your language's idiom?).

In short, I don't feel there's a need to "retaliate" by posing concurrency-specific challenges where Erlang must win--in fact, such challenges have been posed before (e.g. Joe Armstrong's Java vs. Erlang white paper). I'd rather do what I can to learn from what pg has done with arc.